Showing posts with label MMA opposition. Show all posts
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Tuesday, January 19, 2010

President's Page Berita MMA Jan 2010: MMA’s Concerns & Reservations regarding the 1Malaysia Clinics


MMA’s Concerns & Reservations regarding the 1Malaysia Clinics

Dr David KL Quek, President, MMA

MMA's ‘Unpopular’ Viewpoints

There has been a raft of adverse public opinions raised by some writers, including MOH officials, in effect questioning why doctors are so venal and self-serving that they oppose government’s efforts to reach out to the poor, especially the urban poor, with the recent opening of the ‘popular’ 1Malaysia clinics.
The MMA and I personally, have also been vilified as agents provocateur in opposing what is generally viewed as a beneficial move of helping the poor gain ready access to such facilities at such remarkably affordable rates. 
Unfortunately, such views are sadly off the mark and miss the points why many among the medical profession are unhappy. I will try and explain the scenario better, so that more people can understand the realities behind our angst.

As MMA President, MMA’s Roles for Public and Private Doctors

First, I am very mindful that I have been elected to represent all doctors of Malaysia, whose views and professional matters must necessarily fall on my shoulders. Sometimes weighing personal viewpoints against the counter demands of various dissenting doctors can be convoluted. However, when doctors’ concerns and interests appear to be ignored, it must be MMA’s responsibility to highlight, especially when these are perceived to threaten their livelihood or practices.
In fact, GPs form around 40% of our MMA’s membership, 40% from the public healthcare service doctors, and another 20% from the specialist groups.
We too have been fighting for the betterment of work conditions, perks and remuneration for our public servant doctors, lest this is forgotten. Indeed the recent hike in special allowances, tax perks and promotion exercises have been the long-standing joint efforts of the MMA and the enlightened Director-General and Secretary-General of health, and the Nation’s Chief Secretary (KSN), who saw it fitting that we have to reward these doctors better to encourage them to stay within the civil service.
Just these last few months alone, more than 6000 junior doctors in the public health sector got promoted from U41 to U44 grade, and some senior specialists have been promoted to JUSA C grade, which we extol as timely and certainly encouraging.
Thus, it is a disservice to say the MMA is only looking after the private concerns of doctors. We are empowered to pursue proactive actions as part of our role in maintaining and strengthening our professional interests for all doctors.
To further imply that the MMA had made rash judgements is inaccurate. This polemic possibly serves to justify the policy decisions that the authorities had elected to enact. Our earlier press statements have all been made after due diligence and care while double-checking with more than a few unimpeachable sources.
Surely, it is understandable that every profession or work group in the country could occasionally come into cross-purposes with the authorities, the regulators and the government. Such is the dynamic of society and its people.

MMA’s Responsibilities & Robust Response

Which profession or professional body can abdicate from such a position or task? But this should not be misconstrued as selfish and greedy objectives or policies. It is grossly unfair to assume so, when the reality is so different.
I dare say that most if not all doctors whether the GP or the medical officer in the government clinic, have the patient’s interests first and foremost. We unabashedly promote this approach all the time and have urged our doctors to remain faithful to their Hippocratic oath of empathetic service and caring public duty.
Doctors are an integral part of our professional workforce, perhaps a little more privileged than others. Many students and parents also aspire for themselves or their children to pursue such a noble profession, usually at huge family expense, sacrifices, very hard work and dedication. Most of our public here and abroad still views the doctor as arguably the most trusted and respected, as shown by many public opinion polls.
Indeed, it is with profound consideration that the MMA through me as spokesperson, have to articulate some unrecognized but uncomfortable concerns. But we are not actively or purposely working against the public interests. If anything, we have always been our patients’ strongest advocates.
Neither are we picking a fight with the MOH officials with whom we have always been working well together. But sometimes, there will be issues and implementation of policies or practices which we would have to disagree with, and which we would need more robust interaction to resolve in the best possible way. Perhaps then, we can be heard more closely, and our viewpoints recognized as legitimate and fair.
Clearly, some policy decision making from the authorities may sometimes clash with the perceived wisdom of our doctors and perhaps the very acts of medical professionalism itself. We have to reserve the right to disagree, but hopefully without too much rancour or recrimination, so that our professional and practice issues can be better highlighted and perhaps protected.

MMA Supports Universal Healthcare for All, especially ready and affordable access for the poor

At the very outset, let me as President of the MMA, reassure the public, the government and the MOH that the MMA has never opposed whatever measures which may bring better access of healthcare to the rakyat, especially the poor, the marginalized, and the underserved, whether in the urban or rural locations.
We fully support every effort to ensure that the poorest among us, as also of every resident of Malaysia, must have easy, affordable and high quality healthcare, as a human right for all.
We fully appreciate that for many decades now, many world authorities, have praised Malaysia’s primary healthcare structure as being among the best among developing countries, the world over. We are proud that nearly every citizen of Malaysia has relatively easy access to a healthcare facility under a radius of less than 5 km.
Therefore, we recognize that this new endeavour by the government to provide 50 re-branded klinik kesihatan as easy-to-access “1Malaysia clinics” to the urban poor, is laudable and is in line with its caring concept.
However, while the MMA supports better, affordable and more accessible healthcare facilities to the public, the manner in which this has been announced, where they are to be sited, as well as the fact that these clinics were to be manned by medical assistants and nurses, took many doctors by surprise.

1Malaysia Clinics: Many Doctors Confused and Angered

Initially, my personal opinion is that just 50 clinics around the country would have very little impact on any doctor’s rice-bowl, although the MMA has reservations that opening these in urban areas appears redundant, because we already have so many GP clinics in almost every town and suburb in the country. 
Datuk Dr Mah Hang Soon of Perak while visiting the soft opening of these clinics, alluded to the fact that there were already some 319 GPs in the four towns where these 1Malaysia clinics have been sited!
What we did not realize is that, many GPs are much angered by this move, which at first glance appear trivial and inconsequential to some of us. There has been much anxiety and confusion among many GPs from all over the country.
I have received literally, hundreds of angry and condemning sms’s, faxes and emails demanding that the MMA address this issue, which GPs felt has been set up to unfairly impact on their services once again. Such was the general impression that they are once again bearing the brunt of perceived one-sided governmental action, following so closely on the heels of the unpopular Private Healthcare Facilities and Services Act and Regulations (PHCFSA).
The major peeve is the manning of these clinics by non-medically registered personnel, i.e. medical assistants and nurses rather than doctors. This approach appears to many GPs and doctors as taking many steps backward, despite reassurances that there will be oversight and supervision by some doctors, periodically.
We thank YAB Prime Minister for trying to reassure us that our doctors will not be impacted, and that these clinics are simply basic ones to cater for monitoring diabetes, hypertension and some simple ailments. YAB PM left the question of expansion of these clinics opened, depending on the success of its popularity… Hence, our concerns remain. Many GPs continue to feel strongly that these clinics should not have been opened and manned in this manner.

No Real Doctor Shortage, Better Deployment the Answer

MMA believes there is no real shortage of medical doctors, but a misdistribution of resources. The MMA feels strongly that doctors should be deployed to man these clinics. We understand the logistical problems, which have arisen time and again due to doctor reluctance to be relocated to more rural or remote locations. Yes, despite all the improved perks, retaining doctors in the public service remains a challenge.
Proper and fair deployment with guaranteed career paths for further training or preferred posting after such rostered ‘hardship’ postings will allow greater participation by ambitious younger doctors.
Also if these 1Malaysia clinics are now to be part of the expanded public healthcare system, then the MMA believes that even more public sector doctors would be willing to be deployed in rotation, or as part of a training initiative for an enhanced family practice/general practice vocation.

Upgrade all Health Clinics, even for the remote and rural areas

Even rural or suburban ‘klinik kesihatan’s can and should be upgraded to doctor-manned clinics which would enhance the overall standard and quality of care for everyone, urban and rural. What we are saying is that these services even for the poor, can be made even better with clinics, which are doctor-covered 100% of the time.
We do not and have never any intention to antagonize or belittle any other related professional group, but the reality still cannot be denied. We are sorry if MAs or nurses felt that they have been belittled. That is furthest from our minds, as we have always recognized their contributions and roles.
However, these personnel whom we all deeply respect and are dependent on, are specifically-trained and have defined scopes of practices, which are as stated quite explicitly, to ‘assist’ doctors to carry out healthcare services, and never intended to replace doctors.
Thus, the specific roles of allied health personnel will not be eroded, but instead should complement those of doctors. It is a norm that doctors should remain in this day and age, as the minimum standard of care, where indeed possible.
We cannot always look backwards in time and compare the 1960s and 70s, where because of our fledgling healthcare service then, we had to utilize these medical assistants, assistant nurses and midwives to provide very critical services, especially in rural and remote areas around the country. Then, quite obviously some kind of healthcare service is better than none at all, and these have served us very well, indeed.
Our maternal and childhood mortality and morbidity data underscores the success of such a much-lauded program, which are being emulated by many other developing nations. We are rightfully proud of this.
But, despite such strides, our health vital statistics still lag behind more advanced countries, which suggest that more improvement can still be achieved. We need not look far, but a check with our Asian neighbours, would show that many have all greatly improved health statistics, certainly better than ours.
It is acknowledged that some nurses have now degrees, Masters and even PhDs, but the reality on the ground remains that these are few and far between. Furthermore it is well-known that these well-trained personnel are usually administrative and not deployed to service health clinics. However, it remains incontestable that their training does not equal that of a doctor’s.
Nevertheless, we fully support the Malaysian Nurses’ Association’s call to further upgrade the calibre, responsibilities and training of nurses in the country. This will undoubtedly enhance the standard of care for all Malaysians.
However, there are also rising concerns that the mushrooming nursing colleges around the country has also cast a growing cloud of ambiguity as to the average quality and standards of our nurses trained recently. This is also true of our many medical schools!
This is the hard truth, which our health system must learn to address before they become unmanageable. But do we dare ask these difficult questions? Is any one authority seriously looking into this, or are we just too comfortably complacent at simply getting out the numbers?
Thus, the MMA maintains that all of these clinic services are best fully supervised directly by a doctor in proximity, in every healthcare establishment. This practice of having surrogate allied health personnel should always be a stopgap measure, which should be discontinued once sufficient efforts were made to enhance our services.
Using such alternate substitute personnel to replace doctors would never be allowed in any of the private hospitals or private medical facilities. So, clearly because of real life shortages and economic factors, we resort to such practices. But in an ideal world, these would not be the preferred choice.
So should we be stuck in the past, or have we to move forwards? Although the Ministry of Health and many other people feel differently, the MMA believes that we can have sufficient doctors to be deployed to service clinics around the country, notwithstanding logistical problems such as doctor reluctance to be deployed to more remote locations, and the continued attrition of public doctors to private sector ventures.
We are convinced that we are now producing sufficient number of doctors (at very expensive rates!), and they can now hopefully function in their true capacity and training to oversee and run these clinics. That is the premise of the MMA and most doctors—we should not compromise on this, simply for economic or other purposes.
Surely if all else are equal, if payment for service is not the concern, who would any one sick person prefer to see, a doctor or another healthcare professional?
This is not to say that there cannot be a complementary assistive role for allied health professionals. Nurses, nurse practitioners, medical assistants, special technicians, physiotherapists, all or some of these, are indispensable and would enhance the overall healthcare experience.
Our premise is that to each professional, its own tasks and duties based on its specific capacity and training. However, this does not mean we are disparaging or looking down on these very important personnel, whom we work with on a daily basis! We must not allow blurry accusations of the MMA from distracting us on the real issue at hand.

Question of Double Standards of Legal Implications of Clinics

Almost every doctor who had complained, believes that this approach of using clinics to be run by MAs and nurses alone, is wrong in law. Our Medical Act dictates that registered doctors should run any health/medical clinic only. Yet, while this is so for the private medical practitioners, there appears to be another law for government-backed facilities where this requirement can be ignored! (It is true that under the Medical Act, the Health Minister can waive or exempt certain regulations.)
That there appears to be one law for private doctors and another for the government or MOH has provoked a sense of injustice and deep anger, especially because quite a number of doctors who had fallen foul of this law had been severely punished recently. Some doctors have openly asked why they too cannot also employ MAs in their clinics, to look after simple basic health issues too, while each doctor can oversee a few clinics without being physically present!
Of course, the MMA does not and will not condone or encourage any doctor to break the law. Therein lies our dilemma of such a perceived differential application of the rule of law, which is increasingly questioned by more and more of our more vocal citizens. Blatant double standards are badly frowned upon by well-reasoning people, including doctors!
If all these 1Malaysia clinics can be manned by doctors, even house or medical officers (registered medical practitioners) then this degree of unhappiness would be much dissipated. The MMA urges an overall upgrading of these clinics to that manned by at least registered doctors. We believe this will help defuse the situation, and more importantly will enhance the quality of care for patients.
It should not be that if one is poor, then one has no option but would be serviced by whatever is offered at the cheapest mode. Such inequity exacerbates social injustice and is an affront to modern human rights concerns.

Safety & Quality of Care Concerns are real, likely to be better with Doctors

With such a move, there will not only be improving access to the poor but also ensuring safety, higher quality of care, possibly fewer errors, lessen medico-legal mishaps, despite the payment of only RM1! Of course, we can harness the special capabilities of the MAs and nurses to offer quicker access, but one that is supervised by a doctor. With such a move, the question of legality, more appropriate therapies, timely referral and even medical chits can be resolved.
A recent report by a group of doctors in Penang (Dr Jayabalan T and others, The Star, 07 January 2010, pg N45) stated that “A study in 2009 revealed that medical assistants at government health clinics and government hospitals were found to be responsible for many medication errors. Of the 1,612 prescriptions generated by medical assistants in a single week, 1169 errors were noted and some were critical errors, involving the use of at least one medication categorised as Group B medicine, which only medical officers are authorised to prescribe.”
They concluded that “It must be noted that medical assistants are trained to assist medical officers and not to provide treatment in the same manner as medical officers.”
Another study published in 2008 by the Institute of Health Systems Research (comprising researchers from both University Malaya and MOH doctors), on “Medical Error in MOH Primary Care Clinics”, had also found many more errors hitherto unexposed to the public. Of 1753 clinical records reviewed by a team of family medicine specialists, a very high percentage of medical errors were discovered: 57.2% occur in primary healthcare sites, and 93% of medical errors were deemed preventable. The majority of medical errors are related to medication. Medical assistants saw 81% of the total of records assessed, and thus were responsible for the majority of these medical errors.
A lack of knowledge and skills of MOH staff has been shown to contribute to medical errors. They concluded that there is a need to improve the quality of healthcare services provided by MOH health clinics.
Therefore, safety issues must always be considered. This is not to say that doctors cannot make such similar mistakes, but with far more comprehensive training and education, doctors are expected to make fewer of these errors. Medical protection insurance, when taken up by doctors, also helps to ensure greater patient protection.

MMA shares World Medical Association (WMA) Concerns about Uncontrolled Task-Shifting

For many of us in the MMA, the delegation of duties in the 1Malaysia clinics to non-doctors despite its noble intentions of trying to reach out to more of the urban poor, is a form of task-shifting from the medical doctor, which is much feared and roundly cautioned by medical professionals around the world.
While some poorer nations with very short supply of doctors have resorted to task-shifting some of health care to nurse practitioners or health assistants (even encouraged by WHO), this is not the usual exercise for countries aspiring toward a higher standard of care.
This move also contrasts starkly with our vaunted new approach to encourage greater Medical Tourism initiatives, and could lead to questions of uneven healthcare standards, and possibly safety issues. This could unfavourably impact our efforts to promote health tourism from safety conscious foreigners.
Lest doctors be lambasted as ‘elitist’ once again, we declare that we are not. But we respect standards and clear task demarcations, which define one profession from another. Task separations have been mankind’s refining benchmarks for better and more specialized work designations, and we believe this approach is particularly appropriate for the medical and health profession.
Importantly, MAs and nurses do not replace the need for doctors, they assist them to help free up more time for more consultative, diagnostic or more special therapeutic roles. This exercise should never be an exercise for economic or other purposes. Safety and Quality of healthcare must always be our prime concern.

Utilise our Extensive GP Network

Our GP clinic network is extensive in the urban setting. All towns small and big have perhaps too many GP clinics. In major cities these are now highly competitive, even excessive and oversupplied. Many clinics have concerns of viability and under-utilisation. Perhaps, some of these are not sufficiently popular because of poor preparation or other reasons, but most can be improved upon with proper distribution or dispersal of patients.
Therefore, many GPs have asked why they have not been roped in to help out in these clinics for the poor, if only the MOH or government can help reimburse these clinics to help out. We understand the differences in expectations, amenities and perhaps problems with reimbursement protocols, but these can be worked out for the benefit of all.
Our GPs stand ready to be incorporated into a partnership, even an integrated system for better primary care for all our citizens.
But MOH concerns that some or most GPs are of unsure/unsound standards are unfounded and biased. Otherwise how is it that some 62.1% of Malaysians who need medical treatment, seek private primary care consultations in the first instance (2006 National Health and Morbidity Survey)?
The MMA is leading a primary healthcare workgroup to further coordinate measures to raise the standards and quality of patient care among all our GPs and/or family physicians. This will enhance the quality of care even higher for our citizens. We are also working with the MOH to see how we partner or integrate the primary health care system in the country. Again differing standards of expectations, logistics and reimbursement mechanisms need to be sorted out.

GP Woes are Real and Mounting

Many other problems remain to be resolved, which cannot be achieved by any party alone. Our private sector doctors and GPs are also concerned with many other competing issues such as feeder clinics, wellness health screening centres, pathology laboratories posing as clinics; Managed Care Organisations, third party payer or insurance discounting, capping and selection, etc.
There are also rising complaints and perceived sporadic ‘harassments’ from MOH officers implementing the PHCFSA, although these are supposedly for guidance for existing clinics, as was the understanding with previous Ministers of Health. Such pressures make the beleaguered GPs very sensitive to these threats on their practice, they seem to have been assaulted from all angles, with more coming on-stream, even before the other has gone away.

MMA Expects Greater Consultation & Shared Purpose for the Way Forward

Perhaps, less appreciated by government and MOH authorities is the fact that health matters and policy changes affect many sectors, including healthcare providers led by doctors, who should be the natural partners for consultation and engagement for the greater good of the public, the rakyat.
The MMA is ever ready to be a steady partner for working closely and supportively with the MOH, but we must not be taken for granted to agree with the MOH’s every decision.
The MMA is not arrogant. Conversely at various times, our increasingly demanding members have accused us of being too placid and accommodating with the MOH. We have been trying very hard to work with the MOH over many matters of shared interests—during the increased outbreaks of dengue fever, and the H1N1 influenza, we have been tireless supporters of many MOH initiatives which are not universally shared by some sectors and the public.
Together, we believe the end results have been much better than we had feared despite initial uncertainties. Our rakyat’s overall confidence without panic seems to be the final result, which benefits all Malaysians. The pandemic flu second wave appears so far to have been kept in check.
Sometimes our differing methods of implementation may appear to have crossed purposes, but this is mostly due to misunderstanding and lack of communication. The MMA still remains the largest representative body for doctors, with the longest and arguably the most dependable history of doctors’ interests and public health concerns.
Although not always evident, most doctors do depend on MMA’s leadership to articulate some physician concerns, which are not so easily conveyed to the authorities.
As civil and government servants, public sector doctors are bound by government orders and hierarchical levels of authority, which implicitly ‘gags’ many from raising legitimate concerns and criticisms. MMA thus fills in this unenviable void to voice concerns and doctors’ interests, without fear or favour, because that is our remit, although this may sometimes be seen to be irritating and perhaps too ‘garang’.
We recognize that the government and MOH policy makers need a degree of autonomy to enact certain regulations and laws, but without adequate and proper feedback from the doctors or stakeholders on the ground, the implications might be unforeseeably difficult to implement. Indeed many regulations are now seen to be fraught with real-life difficulties and incongruities, which have to be modified and streamlined, as an after sight.
The MMA believes that no authority or government can produce perfect policies, laws and legislations; we can help shape and modify these regulatory frameworks, which ultimately work best for all concerned, in a win-win approach—we and other physician groups, should be engaged and consulted with, for the best cooperative approach to enhancing our healthcare system.

Greater Challenges ahead, Let’s work together

We are all for better medical services for the public and we are certainly very sympathetic to the poor and those who have been marginalized.
We urge the MOH to work with the MMA to recognize and address the many legitimate concerns of the medical practitioners in the country that are mounting. We have to develop a much more refined and planned system of health care and all its encompassing concerns and provider needs.
Let doctors and society have greater and more meaningful input to help resolve some of these issues to help bring about the best health care system for our country.

Tuesday, January 5, 2010

1M Clinics: Some More Comments from MMA members urging caution

1M Clinics: Some More Comments from MMA members urging caution, unfortunately mostly government servants, GPs must speak out, or your voices will not be heard...

Dr Krishna Kumar (NS):

dear all
 
I think you should clearly heed what datuk Mohandas has said
He is VERY CORRECT
do not shoot yourself in the foot
 
one of the main reasons for these clinic has been to address the urban poor who have been neglected for some time. as hospitals become specialised and sub-specialised, the A & E being streamlined to only address the emergency problems, minor ailments need to be channeled somewhere. it is therefore being used as achannel to divert the overload from the hospitals
 
Please note that these clinics are a big hit with the general public who cannot afford to go to the provate and do  not want to wait for long queues by the colour coding systems in the A & E depts of hospitals
 
there are a lot of doctors being produced annually as an excuse does not hold water. there will then be an arguement of the experience and training of these doctors. any mistakes by any doctors will then be further highlighted and will not receive any pity from the general public
 
My advise is to be very carful in addressing this issue and not appear to be looking at doctors' pockets only
 
krishna

My Comments: (DQ)

We hear you, but does anyone hear the GPs?

Being in govt service has comfort zones which unfortunately many in the private sector do not have the luxury of enjoying.

But of course we will be careful. But the MOH and the govt must understand that policy changes no matter how 'noble' the intentions, have implications. The medical profession must maintain our relevance in being important partners to dialogue with the authorities.

Our Private Healthcare Facilities and services Act also came about from noble intentions, but look how much it has impacted so many GPs and those in the private sector? We need to be powerful shapers of our own destiny, not simply reactors to insensitive dictates of policy makers and possible political ploys.

I will try balance what is two glaringly opposite and increasingly divergent clusters of viewpoints.

My only concern is that ultimately, we the doctors will be the that professional who might be facing greater and greater constraints and possible too much oversight, initially within the private sector, but soon when the overcrowded public sector cannot sustain all the newer graduates, then what?

I have always posited that the public must be our first concern, and that there must be better mechanisms to help everyone have universal access to health care. But being a student of medical interests and issues over the past 15 years, I am also in the position to recognise mounting challenges for the 'doctor' whose professionalism, livelihood and even modes of practice will evolve into something quite alien to what is currently experienced.

It is nice to sound so altruistic, but do look into the future, most of the MOs will likely be exploring the private domain, but in what capacity... Just my musings...

For many who are interested, please read the WMA's resolution just passed at the General Assembly after huge debate, end of last year.

Here's the WMA resolution that was adopted in the last General Assembly, which discusses the nuances and implications of Task shifting, and underscores what the medical profession is facing... WMA also cautions on the safety and quality of care. Even the increased nurse practitioners program is an eroding force for the future of doctors...

May be like dinosaurs, the medical profession will evolve into a toothless beasts of burden, worker ants/bees?

Knowledge of what has been happening around the world regarding the medical profession will help place some balance and focus on the possible future for us doctors...

WMA Resolution on Task Shifting from the Medical Profession

Patient Safety and Quality of Care Should be Paramount When Task Shifting

The Sun 05.01.10: Docs circulating SMS about 1Malaysia clinics protest

The Sun just published some bits of an interview I had with Ms Karen Arukesamy.

The Sun, Tuesday, 05.01.10
Docs circulating SMS about 1Malaysia clinics protest
Karen Arukesamy


PETALING JAYA (Jan 4, 2010): A text message via the short-messaging-service (SMS) is circulating amongst private doctors on a proposed placard protest to be held within the Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) compound, against the government’s 1Malaysia clinics.

The SMS also states that the MMA will lodge an official complaint to Malaysian Medical Council (MMC) against the Health Ministry and a police report against "illegal 1Malaysia clinics for doping the public."

When contacted MMA president Dr David K L Quek told theSun today that he was aware of the circulating SMS.
"I am aware of it. It is not from MMA but from some doctors, who are dissatisfied and unhappy with the setting up of the 1Malaysia Clinics to be manned by health assistants and staff nurses. Nothing will take place unless we agree to it," he said.

"Many of the general practitioners are very unhappy to see that the government is shifting down the tasks. We are not against the poor getting free treatment but there are long term implications to it."

On Dec 16, Health Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai had announced that 50 1Malaysia community clinics, which will be launched simultaneously on Thursday, will begin operation this month to provide fast basic health treatment for urban poor residents.

Liow said it will save patients’ waiting time to seek treatment for minor ailments and will help to reduce the outpatient load at the accident and emergency units.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak had announced an allocation of RM10 million under Budget 2010 for the community clinic programme.

The clinics, which will be opened from 10am to 10pm daily, will be managed by a medical assistant and a nurse and would be at locations easily accessible by the public in residential areas with a population of more than 10,000 people.

However the community clinic programme was not welcomed by MMA and private doctors.

Emphasising that policy shifts should include greater dialogue with doctors as their potential livelihood and practice will be affected, Quek stressed that most of the general practitioners are very upset and angered by this move.

Quek said the government cited other countries as having implemented similar community clinic programmes, but noted that most of the medical assistants and nurses there hold bachelors' degrees and extra diplomas specialising in certain medical fields.

"But here, a lot of them are just SPM holders who attend a three-year-course They may not have enough training in handling certain cases," he said.

Reiterating that MMA is not opposed to the poor getting free and good treatment for health and medical needs, he said: "The poor deserves good treatment and there should not be shifting of tasks, just because they cannot afford it."

"Our concerns are more in principle that we should utilise more doctors and indeed enlist the special expertise of the medical assistants and experienced nurses together but under direct supervision of a doctor in any clinic, but inline with their training," Quek said.

He urged the government to consider the plights doctors who have been trained at huge expense, parents who have spent enormous amounts of money to ensure that their children can become doctors, and who may in the near future have not enough work to do.

"MMA is naturally concerned about these graduates," he said, adding that it does not want things to go to the extent where the doctors are marginalised.

Quek noted that it is projected that by 2015, the country may have as many as 35,000 to 45,000 doctors.
He said MMA has worked very closely and cooperated with the Health Ministry over many issues, and it is "not simply opposing, just out of spite".

"As a president elected to serve the members, I have to answer to their plight and misgivings, although as a specialist I am not at all affected at all by this issue of 1Malaysia clinics," he said.

Quek said MMA hopes to work with the ministry to resolve this unintended crisis of confidence, adding that the Health Ministry has agreed to hold a dialogue with MMA at the ministry on Friday to solve the problem.

1M Clinics: Additional Comments...

1M Clinics: Additional Comments...





Datuk Dr Teoh Siang Chin:
I am a bit late in replying - been away on leave.

i would like to give some input :

We cannot oppose (Publicly ) the clinics - the public/ patients and media have seen this as a expansion of health care services.

we can only state our concern for the quality of care as you so rightly put it.

However, i understand very well the perceived threat by our members in primary care - they are right in that this should have been done in consultation with MMA.

maybe some of our members would be able to over see and work part time there. (unlikely to get rate of RM 80 per  hour. more like  rm 30 -50 per hour.)


if we can find a hundred private members (two per clinic) willing to do this -

we will benefit the community by providing better professional care.

 MMA can be a partner to 1MC - we be the good guys to announce that our doctors willing to serve - to provide better care. - (negotiate the rate later - in private) .

This will be seen as a good gesture by the community - MMA eager to provide higher quality care.

A correction - it is  RM 10 million for fifty clinics - which is  RM 200k per clinic per year.-

(including rental/ furniture and equipment / consumables/ medicines -  but probably not salaries.)

We have to be quick to seize the intiative -

The launch of the first 1MC is on 7th in kg kerinchi pantai dalam by the PM..

Has MMA been invited?

The meeting with MOH is after the launch -

SO - May i suggest :

Today - a well worded press statement:

1) Seeing the establishment of 1MC as a positive development  to provide better coverage for the urban poor.

2) and YET positioning MMA and our members' concern about quality of care -

3) (Solution) and then volunteering our professional oversight during the period of lack of medical officers - a good private public partnership.

AND thanking the MOH for agreeing to a meeting on friday ..

then DURING the meeting then ask all the difficult questions - re the PHFCSA provisions etc .
etc..

Also prepare  a press release for post meeting..friday..

Maj Gen Dato' Dr R Mohanadas:

Thanks so much for initiating this ongoing dialogue.I have read your letter in the NST and the reply too by the DG. We have to be cautious in handling this dialogue on Friday to arrive at a win-win formula..... I did not get to my e mails till yesterday as I had taken a year end break!!
 
My thoughts are (remember I am not in active clinical practice, and all my 30 years in military service is provision of community healthcare, and now involved in the training of healthcare professionals!!!):
 
a.   The MMA is still the largest single body to represent the interest of the profession (though our percentage in relation to total numbers keep decreasing). Therefore we are correct in highlighting the concerns of the GPs.......but the perception created is that:
 
      (1) the income of the GPs will be affected by the 1 Malaysia Clinics.This seems to be foremost in the minds of the public. (we agree but to me, it will be  a very small dent with the 50 clincs for now).
 
      (2) this has to be balanced with our community role as a medical profession.....I do not remember the exact words in the MMA Consitution, but have the MMAF M&A here. It says 'to look into the problems of the health of this nation, the system of delivery of healthcare to rural and urban areas'.
 
b. Quote...the Govt is taking a step back by using MAs (now called Asst Medical Officers) is incorrect. Yes, legally so, if without supervision. The Govt can easily overcome this by naming PICs for each clinic from the nearest Govt Facility, and maybe send them out to the 1 Malaysia Clinics for a few hours each day?..........again we lose the battle.............
 
c. Training of Nurses and MAs have changed, unlike our days!!..........Students now opt for a first degree in Nursing which is a 4 year programme after STPM!..not SPM.....(again crudely as some parents put it at the education fairs...'what only one year less than studying to be a doctor'.).............(disregard the entry qualifications for medicine and content of the medical curriculum!)..........besides MAHSA, there are several IPTAs and IPTS offering degrees in Nursing.........I have heard some paper presentations by these girls and they are good!....................Next is the conversion from diploma to degrees in Nursing, and this 2 year part time programme called top up is fully subscribed in all IPTS that offer........we have graduated probably a 1000 working nurses with these degrees................and a much higher than this figure are currently enrolled with us......................MAs too, easily some 200 of them are on the degree programmes with us (MAHSA).................another interesting development is the Masters in Healthcare, with emphasis in clinical care...................this is conducted by LJMU with MAHSA....this is to produce Nurse Practitioners, and some who are enrolled in this programme are targeting Australia for work after the course...................(I hope I am not seen to be advertsinig for MAHSA!!......but just to say that there is a big shift in Nurse/MA training and education, ).....................therefore we should only lightly hit this issue on Friday..........or atleast indicate that we are fully aware of these developments and yet..........
 
d. I met a retiree in his 70s who welcomed this 1Malaysia Cilinc and said that it will be easier for me to change my catheter (he had spinal surgery a year ago). Another was a girl, working in the private sector in KL for RM 2000, who shares an apartment in Kg Kerinci...............she thinks no problems with Nurses treating her 2 kids, 'sebab lebih senang dia orang bolih hantar ke hospital kalau sakit teruk'.............again being too vocal against the 1Malaysia Clinics I feel may not get good community support........
 
e. MMA is concerned that there will be a glut of doctors sooner than expected, though currently a I uderstand in the last declared figures only 55% of the MO appointments in Govt is filled.........these 1 Malaysia Clinics will be welcomed by some of our own new graduates, especially those who still fear far away postings.
 
f. The 'political' aspect in this issue I feel is only the word "1Malaysia"...........the positive aspect is better access to healthcare for the rakyat....inview of the ever increasing numbers of low income earners in urban areas.......the negative aspect is its effect on the GPs, again where an established GP with good clinical skills and the right dose of doctor-patient relationship should have no worries??
 
g. Politics again, we all know, and I am sure the Govt also knows the low voter registration from the medical profession and the low voter turnout though once in five years!!.........If we were in Govt we would also be targetting the people who would atleast take the time to vote (disregardig who one votes for).........!!...I know doctors my age who have never voted!!!!
 
So where is this win-win formula???:
 
a. My suggestion will be..........we welcome these additional clinics in the interest of the rakyat............it is good their health needs are addressed.........but please give the GPs in that area the first oppurtunity to service these clinics at a payment of RM ....per hour........(MMA's duty to its members).
 
b. If the GPs do not come forward, then please assure the rakyat are given a higher level of service by posting Govt MOs into these clinics..........(MMA's duty to the rakyat).
 
c. If the Govt still chooses to expand these clinics, to consult MMA for views on locations.
 
Finally, I am against any form of action other than dialogue with the authorities.................no peace walk, no static placard demos, no signature campaigns............we should do none of these to mar the nobility of our pofession........remember this year is our 50th Anniversary and you talked about programmes that wll be seen to benefit the community  throughout 2010!! (tough,eh being President, balancing both!!!)....Good Luck
 
Dr David, I am sure my views may not be in total agreement with many, but as you have always said, we are mature enough to hear differing views!
 
Wish you well for 2010 and have a successful meeting on Friday.
 
Dr KC Koh:
I am in concurrence with Datuk Teoh.
 
My opinion has always been to avoid rash decisions and to stress on the fact that the 1Malaysia clinics are going to be manned by under qualified staff.
 
And also it's unlikely to be a threat to most GPs as patients who will visit 1Malaysia Clinics are most likely those who in the first place, will not pay to see a private GP.
 
However, I see a threat here, in that MMA is not being consulted on a host of issues concerning healthcare delivery in our country.
 
Datuk Dr Sarjeet Singh Siddhu:
We are in a no-win situation here. We are damned if we oppose and we are damned if we don’t. But we had better sit back a little and see where we are really heading.
The letters from the Public, the one from Australia in “The Star” today (likely from a para-medic), the DG’s response, and the like do not augur well for the doctors from the viewpoint of their “rice bowl”.
(I will refer to all paramedics / healthcare providers, both local and foreign as MAs for convenience.)
Some issues that need consideration:
  1. The DG’s statement that the MAs will, inter alia, “change a bladder catheter or dress a minor injury”; that “They are qualified to carry out minor surgical procedures and are allowed to use specific surgical instruments under the Medical Act 1971” is a matter of fact that will sit very easy with the public. Indeed it IS being welcomed by almost every lay citizen.
  2. The public is aware that non-doctors in developed countries undertake such tasks and treatments, and the letter in the Star (from some Aussie) endorses this perception. That the reasons for this “task shifting” in the West may be quite different from what we face locally will remain irrelevant to the Public.
  3. Our argument that providing MAs where abundant doctors are available (urban areas) amounts to a “downgrade” is supportable. But it does not negate the use of MAs in areas where no doctors are available (parts of the Country), and so we are not against such “task shifting” where necessary.
  4. Our argument that we object because we feel patients are being short-changed, that the objection is entirely or mainly on these altruistic grounds, does not ring true entirely. We have to admit that the key cause for the objection is that these 1MCs will cut into GP incomes. This is not to say that such concern is wrong; indeed so many GPs can barely make what new MOs in Govt service now make.
  5. Work out a system that employs GPs (as Govt locums) at rates now payable to Govt doctors. Eventually they are going to have (more than) enough doctors of their own to man/run these clinics
  6. Much is being made, by certain individuals and quarters, about the 1MCs being illegal (ie against the PHSFA) and that we should lodge police reports and/or seek a High Court injunction.  But, as I see it, the PHSFA is not applicable to the Govt hospitals/clinics. So let us forget about the legalities (unless I am wrong in my interpretation).
I do not have the answers to the issues raised above but these need to be considered.
Since we are asked to bring other doctors, besides the MMA reps, we can get the GPs to come (as a show of strength and solidarity) but we must take pains to assure the authorities that this is not a protest demonstration a la street demos.
Take the PPS Committe along as suggested by Mohan.
My Feedback Comments (DQ):
SC, sorry you were away, but I think you cannot seriously think that MMA should support the 1Malaysia clinic as it stands!!??

Pls follow all the postings on this. Join our facebook discussion group to be updated on what has transpired.

There is not only a real risk of further arbitrary actions from the MOH, but also that potential threat of task-shifting which is now mooted in DG's letter to NST after our MMA's response earlier.

You are right, I have in my earlier malaysiakini comment (also in our Berita MMA) stated that each clinic is allocated some RM200,000, but what Dr Mastura mentioned is what is initially allowed i.e. RM30,000 for the set up. The public purse is having some financial shortages.

However, although the opening and launching of the 1M clinic is unstoppable, we should still lodge our strongest protests and opposition which is what most doctors and members feel, but perhaps not by demos and placards.

Your points about quality of care has already been discussed at length in the media (when published) by me as president of the MMA, but I guess you were not accessing any local news, while away. See my blog or the facebook blog for the threads in almost all the exchanges...

But I agree with your points of using this turn of events to perhaps suggest the manning of these clinics by locums from the private sector which is a good alternative, although I think it will not materialise, as the budget for such locums is clearly not been factored in and there is already a health expenditure cut by 4.8%, for 2010. (Working on the basis of locum reimbursement of RM40 to 80 per hour, this would cost RM8.76 million to RM17.52 million ringgit for the locums for 50 clinics, 12hs/day for 365 days a year!)

Remember that we have suggested that they man the clinics with govt MOs, but this was not even entertained, so we can just propose and try, but I am not hopeful.

The exco will meet Wed to help come out with some more concrete proposals. I will of also try to get out some press statements which have a habit of being delayed or even shelved, unfortunately...

The Sun just published some bits of an interview I had with Ms Karen Arukesamy.

The Sun, Tuesday, 05.01.10
Docs circulating SMS about 1Malaysia clinics protest
Karen Arukesamy

PETALING JAYA (Jan 4, 2010): A text message via the short-messaging-service (SMS) is circulating amongst private doctors on a proposed placard protest to be held within the Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) compound, against the government’s 1Malaysia clinics.

The SMS also states that the MMA will lodge an official complaint to Malaysian Medical Council (MMC) against the Health Ministry and a police report against "illegal 1Malaysia clinics for doping the public."

When contacted MMA president Dr David K L Quek told theSun today that he was aware of the circulating SMS.
"I am aware of it. It is not from MMA but from some doctors, who are dissatisfied and unhappy with the setting up of the 1Malaysia Clinics to be manned by health assistants and staff nurses. Nothing will take place unless we agree to it," he said.

"Many of the general practitioners are very unhappy to see that the government is shifting down the tasks. We are not against the poor getting free treatment but there are long term implications to it."

On Dec 16, Health Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai had announced that 50 1Malaysia community clinics, which will be launched simultaneously on Thursday, will begin operation this month to provide fast basic health treatment for urban poor residents.

Liow said it will save patients’ waiting time to seek treatment for minor ailments and will help to reduce the outpatient load at the accident and emergency units.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak had announced an allocation of RM10 million under Budget 2010 for the community clinic programme.

The clinics, which will be opened from 10am to 10pm daily, will be managed by a medical assistant and a nurse and would be at locations easily accessible by the public in residential areas with a population of more than 10,000 people.

However the community clinic programme was not welcomed by MMA and private doctors.

Emphasising that policy shifts should include greater dialogue with doctors as their potential livelihood and practice will be affected, Quek stressed that most of the general practitioners are very upset and angered by this move.

Quek said the government cited other countries as having implemented similar community clinic programmes, but noted that most of the medical assistants and nurses there hold bachelors' degrees and extra diplomas specialising in certain medical fields.

"But here, a lot of them are just SPM holders who attend a three-year-course They may not have enough training in handling certain cases," he said.

Reiterating that MMA is not opposed to the poor getting free and good treatment for health and medical needs, he said: "The poor deserves good treatment and there should not be shifting of tasks, just because they cannot afford it."

"Our concerns are more in principle that we should utilise more doctors and indeed enlist the special expertise of the medical assistants and experienced nurses together but under direct supervision of a doctor in any clinic, but inline with their training," Quek said.

He urged the government to consider the plights doctors who have been trained at huge expense, parents who have spent enormous amounts of money to ensure that their children can become doctors, and who may in the near future have not enough work to do.

"MMA is naturally concerned about these graduates," he said, adding that it does not want things to go to the extent where the doctors are marginalised.

Quek noted that it is projected that by 2015, the country may have as many as 35,000 to 45,000 doctors.

He said MMA has worked very closely and cooperated with the Health Ministry over many issues, and it is "not simply opposing, just out of spite".

"As a president elected to serve the members, I have to answer to their plight and misgivings, although as a specialist I am not at all affected at all by this issue of 1Malaysia clinics," he said.

Quek said MMA hopes to work with the ministry to resolve this unintended crisis of confidence, adding that the Health Ministry has agreed to hold a dialogue with MMA at the ministry on Friday to solve the problem.

Monday, January 4, 2010

1M Clinics: More Comments from Concerned Doctors

1M Clinics: More Comments from Concerned Doctors

Dr Liew Houng Bang, (KK, Sabah):

This is another trying moment for our profession.

The emails and most feedback we seen from MMA, is "blame", is wrong has been done to us.
Are we truely victimized, or we have someway led to this, and partly responsible.

Perhaps, we need to ask, and debate:
1. Why 1Malaysia clinic is conceived? Why politician thinks this is an opportunity? What gap is not filled?
2. If 1Malaysia clinic is a threat to the profession, how should we resolve this? Can we 'integrate' or 'transit' this into a health system that will address the issues raised, and win-win situation for all stakeholders. Not forgetting the biggest stakeholder is the public at large, and every corner of our nation, East and West, rich or poor, rural or urban.

Open confrontation like demonstrations and walk-outs have severe repercussion. Lest not be rash. First do no harm.

Our strategy must be guided by our ultimate objective of "public good" as priority, and "professional interest" as second, and although the encroachment of our doctor's rice-bowl is an underlying reason, this should not be the trump card!
We will lose our credibility if we do so.

If we go public, this intention must be to engage the public, as advocate to the public interest. Walkouts and public protests will be counterproductive.

can the professional members in the community (GP) rise to the challenge and say, we can fulfill the society's needs?

3. How can MMA be 'relevant'? Not risk marginalised by society at large, and alienated by members within the profession.

Prof Sim's subtle words signal transformation, if not revolution. I like to see this beginning of our "revival" of our professionalism; rooted in altruism, service, caring, and humility; not selfishness, mercenary, apathy, and arrogance. The latters are gaining as characters of our profession in Malaysia.

Public trust and respect, including our self-respect, cannot be demanded but earned.

"One who is skilled at directing war always tried to turn the situation to his advantage" SunZi

Prof Dr Sim Kui Hian (Kuching, Sarawak):
Indeed, you had worked harder than anyone else in terms of time and sacrifices with the MOH which I personally had the first hand knowledge myself. 

Several things just coming thru my minds (as still suffering from jet lag and massive paper works after away for 3 weeks. Patients always come first in my daily practice), the best action for the doctors (none MMA members) and the MMA is to have the intelligence on the ground well before 1 Msia Clinic was ever announced in parliament. 

Since is too late, the next best action perhaps is to embrace 1 Msia Clinic and extract the best deals within the limitation of 1 Msia Clinic.  Is up to us to plan, to create a win-win situation, perhaps suggesting that negotiated for a payment for our members to work in 1 Msia clinic, what types of patients should be seen in the clinic, operational hours, etc.  

Otherwise, after June, our younger colleagues (majority are non member) will be more than happy to work in 1 Msia Clinic instead of district posting or nite duty.  By than, what is the issue apart from the perceived self interest of the doctors of MMA (not you or me) by the public (be it rightly or wrongly)?  (We need to articulate what are the actual examples that we are not just advocating passionately but doing sincerely for the public interest.)

We need our members to understand the dynamic, the reality, the PR, etc rather than what MMA should do for my interest alone (while at times, our own people is the one who broke rank, leading to our diminishing voice at best and embarrassment to the MMA at worst.  Fortunately is only minority but still one too many).  

Dr Kuljit Singh (via blackberry):
Prof Sim is right as we may have to work something out to benefit doctors as the entire project is going to go on. Fighting it in the street is not going to work.

Dr Liew Houng Bang:
I do agree with your points. This is a challenge we all have to face. I merely share a perspective, bare and honest. This is necessary so that we all know what we may face.
Glad, you are "keeping the peace" as strategy. You have my full support, "as of now" too.

My suggestions:
Before the 8th January 2009, MMA nationwide should urgently convene to brainstorm on:
1. Consistent Strategy: "the big picture"
2. Action plans: all options, pros and cons.
3. Proposals: win-win solutions; "ground"
4. Negotiation: find common ground, common interest, respect difference, always refocus on way forward; expect stalemate, ready to give-and-take.

Then MMA council should represent. My concern of a open-for-all dialogue with Minister may be chaotic and sentiments may betray the better part of us.
I suggest, the Council meet with branch leadership first. After the Council meeting with YBMK, perhaps an opportunity to meet the 'grassroot'.

Trust is essence, we have to ask, how to help our minister do the "right thing" for all. We may even need to accept "no commitment" until all sides have their say, and allow time and space, for a follow-up Second meeting with YBMK.

Never begin a battle, that we can't win. If we plan to lose, this must be for the victory of the War at large.
Sometimes, our greatest enemies are within.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.

1M Clinics: More Comments from our MMA members...

1M Clinics: More Comments from our MMA members...


Dr Choo Gim Hooi:

Today's STAR paper published a letter contributed from someone in Australia. The tone of the letter suggests that M'sian physicians are self-centred and the MOH's 1M'sia clinic should be lauded and is the way forward for M'sians.

We should tread this carefully lest our intentions are misinterpreted by the public. Such publicity would sway public opinion and MOH against us.
The letter gave example of similar clinics being run by non-physicians and are successful models of care.


Having discussed with other colleagues including Dr.Namazie - the nurse practitioners in Australia, NZ, UK,etc were very well trained through a comprehensive program. There are essentially Master graduates who have a post-basic degree trainings for a further 3-4 years. Much left to be desired in the MAs and nurses that are churned out from local training institutions. The care systems in the other countries have also been well thought of and have physicians closely associated in the whole network of care.

One has the impression that the 1 M'sia clinics have not been planned thoroughly and little thoughts of its implications on patient care and outcomes.
Just my 2 cents worth of opinion.

Dr Chan Gong Guan:
If it is true that the allocation for each 1M Clinic is only RM 30 000, then it is most probably that the 1M Clinic is just a SHOW that the Govt has put up.  The 1M Clinic will soon be forgotten and die a natural death.

However, it is a golden opportunity for MMA to gain some ground, especially in the eyes of the public.  MMA should come out with a press release, 'advise' the Govt and the Politician how to run the 1M Clinic properly, how not to waste people's money into a futile project, and of most importance, to remind them to keep up to the standard of the Healthcare Act.

I believe, that all GPs will be more than happy, to stick up that newspaper cutting in their clinic, so that it will surely reach the public widely.

To be serious, MMA, like any Citizen in this country, should be responsible enough to speak up for the sake of the country, when something is not right.

Doctors are highly respected in our community.  We must honour that respect.

Dr Subramaniam Suppiah: (via sms)
We the GPs fully support your stand on the 1Malaysia clinics.

We totally reject the government's policy of allowing HAs nd Nurses prescribing treatment to patients. It will take our health care 30 years backwards. Please ask PM to make all GP clinics to 1Malaysia clinics tro serve the poor at government cost!

Datuk Dr Sarjeet Singh Siddhu:
I somehow missed reading senior MOH FP’s post: makes it clear that even the MOH was caught unawares.

But even without it a re-read of my post (read between the lines) you will note I used words like “credible”, “persuasive” and “appears”, implying thereby that I am not convinced by the explanation. But that a simple reading of the ‘explanation’ will sound convincing to those not in the know (read as general public).

<< The question is what's next? Pls give a lot of thought to this. I am only responding to the majority's wishes to be more vocal in expressing our interests as I have been trying to do without fear or favour thus far, although personally I have more to lose than to gain. But because I have been elected to serve our members, I will do what the majority decides. >>

I agree with you there, and especially feel that we focus on “The question is what's next? Pls give a lot of thought to this”. Members are rightly agitated, but they should come up with some concrete ideas that have some hope of working’ ie something that just might make the govt see our position and act on it. In that sense I see things as follows:

  1. The odds of reversing the decision are nil (for the immediate future; ie the 50 1MCs will stay.
  2. We can only hope that the number stays at 50 (in the cities and other urban areas). The thrust of the 1MCs should be where no or very little healthcare is available.
  3. Our objection to the project must be well reasoned and presented as such in a letter to the MOH / PM
  4. We could circulate the “letter” to members and others alike, collect genuine signatures and then sign off (by the President) saying this document is supported by XXXX number of doctors. Perhaps the “signing” can be online (electronic); open a site / page that doctors can access (get some computer savvy guy to explain this; my knowledge is grossly limited).

I’m sure brighter sparks amongst us will come up with better solutions, but this is what I can figure for now. Perhaps all this discussion will lead us to the right approach.

Dato Dr Azizan Abdul Aziz:
Been following the discussion and the matter is getting sensitive and MMA has to balance the delicate situation between doctors and MOH/GOVT.

DG's tone is irritated if one disagrees with his views.As you suggest, an urgent dialogue with MOH and PM rep is essential in them trying to understand the longterm implication of their action on the medical profession.

It is sad for politicians to take advantage and gain political mileage on the 1Malaysia clinic issue.No doubt it is a good idea to address the problem of the urban poor but as everyone said ,it has to be manned by a doctor (since we uwld have surplus of doctors soon).

Dr Hooi Lai Ngoh:
Have asked some Penang members.  In general agree with Dr Ashok's views.

The government hospitals are now flooded with young doctors doing housejobs and medical officer postings.

There should be enough to put some in the clinics soon.

As for the placard demonstration the feeling is that it will be too little and too late since the first clinic will be launched next week.  We will not achieve much since it would not be possible to stop them now.  Perhaps should look into other avenues of protest and perhaps the public will support MMA when the clinics fall short of expectations.s

Prof Dr Sim Kui Hian:
Despite the fact that Sabah and Sarawak tends to get left out, by June (less than 6 months time), even Sarawak General Hospital (SGH) is going to be flooded by MO (though we are critically short in SGH the moment bcos of 2 years housemanship).  I am very sure this new MO would rather be in 1 Msia Clinic rather than sharing our noble national aspiration of national integration, get posted to the district of UK - Ulu Kapit

I understand that the number of HO in West Malaysia is a lot more that they have to do shift work!

Just to give a perspective on numbers. The whole of Sarawak normally only given 80 HO a year (in 2007 we only had 23).  Currently, SGH alone had more than 230 HO (due to 2 years HO).  So by June we will have 100 MO in SGH.  This numbers is increasingly rapidly after 2010 not only in Sarawak but in the whole country. 

SGH had 650 doctors and 230 are HO - 35% of total doctors.   Next year, if we get another 150 new HO; this means we will have 280 HO and if we take the first year MO into account, this means ~54% (280+150/800) of the doctors in SGH are less than 3 years after graduation.  There are only so many post in SGH! 

With this information, whatever MMA do, it must be perceived NOT to be
1.   Self centred (by the communities)
2.   Leadership for the young (< 3 years after graduation)

Since we all firmly believe in democracy – by next year, they can vote the senior one out of the advisory board, etc of SGH at a start and other institutions later)   

Is not just change BUT transformational change that MMA and the country never ever be seen.  It will happens in the next few years.  We need to have the courage to lead wisely.       


My Comments: (DQ)
 I agree with your sentiments about working together and all that with the MOH and for the benefits of all doctors and the community. During the first 6 months of my term, I have personally worked very hard to get along with the MOH, and we have been working together just fine, until the latest issue erupted!

You have actually brought up some very real issues such as glut of young doctors, which we all are also very concerned with . If this issue of 1Malaysia clinics continue to expand with more and more being set up because it is cheaper, what will happen to our younger doctors?

 That is why we are making such a issue, task shifting to other allied personnel will encroach onto our medical professionals, not you and me specifically but to a lot of other doctors coming in the pipeline. These are the doctors we are fighting for, so please, give concrete ideas as to how to tackle or resolve this issue. Where do we go from here?

After trying to set up a meeting with the MOH whole of last 2 weeks, finally this morning the Principal Private Secretary (Mr Lim Eng Leong) of the Minister of Health called and is trying to set up a meeting with the Minister and MOH officials, sometime this Friday, but time and place still not confirmed. I hope all GPs and many MMA members will turn up in huge force to meet with the Minister and express our unhappiness.

Just to let you know, a few of the professional bodies' presidents called me personally to support us in our quest to protect our professionalism and practice; they too are worried if some of these can be task-shifted away from them!

Will keep you all posted.

David

Sunday, January 3, 2010

1M Clinics: Recent Commentaries from some of our MMA members...

Recent Commentaries from some of our MMA members...

Dr Vithylingam:
You have given a fair view of the situation.
   Action must be taken to show MMA's concern of this grave injustice to the private practitioners esp Primary care doctors. It is a blatant disregard to the Medical Act. Exco must take a collective decision to pacify the angry GPs. A repeat of what the Schomos did, without fear, in the 80s. Doctors must cooperate and take the necessary action otherwise it may be embarrassing for the Exco.

Alternatively, MMA can have a press conference on the 10th before the Council meeting. All the state reps will be there. In the meantime a Nationwide signature campaign can be carried out and presented on  the 10th Jan.All the Primary care doctors can be present as a show of protest.PPS Chairman can call all the PPS reps on 10th to show solidarity and demo within the compound of MMA.
 Hope good sense will prevail.


Dr Milton Lum's email Points

In addressing this issue, can I suggest that you and Council consider the following:
1. the law i.e. not only the Medical Act but also the Medical Assistants (MA) Act, Nurses Act, Midwives Act
2. the current scope of clinical responsibilities of MAs, nurses and midwives in the public sector, and to some extent, in the private sector
3. the proposed scope of practice in the 1Malaysia clinics and its standard operating procedures
4. the numbers of patients treated by MAs, nurses and midwives in the public sector relative to the numbers treated by doctors.
5. what are the objectives of proposed actions
6. alternatives to the actions stated in your email
7. whether the public will be supportive of actions taken by MMA
8. whether doctors will support MMA's actions
9. whether other professional medical organizations are supportive of MMA's position
10. timing

Whilst the anger expressed by some doctors is understandable, any action taken should be based on sound rationale that can withstand public scrutiny.

Dr Ashok: 
It may be difficult to halt these clinics now, with the momentum and politicians behind it. We
should register our opposition and reasons for such in a letter to the MOH. Perhaps we
should monitor the progress of these clinics closely, noting the inevitable problems that will
crop up.

My feeling is that as the MOH fills up with more and more young doctors, they may replace
MAs at these clinics - and that won't be too far in the future. For GPs, the strongest point is
their personal relationship with the patient, their experience and their patient management
skills.


Prof KH Sim:

We must never forget for MMA to remain relevant, for the medical profession to still be considered as a noble profession, we must have the 3 main objectives
·         to remain respected by the community
·         to remain as the partner of health to the government
·         to remain relevant to our younger colleagues

Our medical profession will need to adapt and have the courage to take leadership above self interest for the healthcare of the community, the nation and lastly for our medical profession (our younger newly graduated colleagues will out numbers the older colleagues very soon. It will change the whole political dynamic within MMA and the medical profession).    

Sun Zi - military philosophy   
©      “know the terrain before know the weather”
©      “know your enemy before know yourself”

Suggest we plan and aim to win the war rather than win the battle and lose the war.  The best is to win the battle and the war of cause.

 Dato' Dr Sarjeet S Sidhu

The DG has put up a credible case for the setting up of 1M clinics (1MC); and as a very senior Civil Servant one cannot expect any less from him. He has given a good explanation of the rationale for the setting of these 1MCs: as I said made a credible case.

But “that this approach is really shortchanging the urban poor in the long term”  will not be realised by the citizens at large at this stage.

"Suggesting that the ministry had acted in haste and is being retrogressive in its approach clearly reflects their lack of understanding of the role of the 1Malaysia clinics."

From the above it appears that the MOH did NOT act in haste, and it may well be so. But it cannot be denied that the MMA and all doctors were caught unawares. Shouldn’t the doctors (via MMA, etc) have been consulted? Strange that such an important step was taken without so much as a consultation with the doctors and without any debate. Why were we kept out of the loop when such decisions were being made?

"Rural Malaysians receive better healthcare than their poorer urban counterparts."

And many rural poor (interior of Sabah and Sarawak, for example) receive even poorer healthcare than the urban poor.

Anyway it’s a little late to stop the setting up of the 50 1MCs, and as the DG persuasively says “…having the 1Malaysia clinics, just 50 of them throughout the country (three or four in each state) is not going to dent the purse of our doctors…”

What needs to be done at this stage is to make a detailed and reasoned case as to why we oppose such a move. It will not cause the 50 clinics to be “undone” but may persuade the Govt to not expand further.

As Dr Ashok says “It may be difficult to halt these clinics now, with the momentum and politicians behind it. We should register our opposition and reasons for such in a letter to the MOH. Perhaps we should monitor the progress of these clinics closely, noting the inevitable problems that will crop up.”

By the same token IF the 50 clinics should turn out to be a success story, and we have no real reason beyond the fact that it will affect the earning capacity of GPs, we will be obliged to withdraw our protests (if any).

As Ashok says it may well be “that as the MOH fills up with more and more young doctors, they may replace MAs at these clinics - and that won't be too far in the future. For GPs, the strongest point is their personal relationship with the patient, their experience and their patient management skills”. 

My Comments:


Dear Ashok, Prof Sim and all,
I already know from several inside sources about the 1M clinic being made to prepare for the opening within 30 days. I am fully aware that this is a political move, which the MOH cannot of course acknowledge widely.

Unfortunately, such a move of task-shifting professional matter downwards has grave implications for doctors not only here but also in many countries in the world. So, we have to make a concerted stand, so that this would not be allowed to be further extended into a program where more and more primary care doctors would be marginalised especially those in the private sector. Financial implications is not the only concern, but perhaps most unfortunately obvious.

As pointed out by Dr Alan Teh, governments are only interested in short term goals of seeking good publicity fallout, but some decreased quality issues cannot be excluded and would be bound to occur (missed diagnoses, delayed referral for complicated cases, errors, etc), and unfortunately this would affect the poor first and foremost, with those that can afford paying to see doctors would escape this potential woe.

It is not that doctors are simply against treating the urban poor but, that this approach is really shortchanging the urban poor in the long term. What is most important for us is the medical profession itself, what would become of us, if the government keeps shifting the  goalposts for political or economic ends? The future of so many new medical graduates would also be even more murky and probably made even harder with such arbitrary moves by the government or MOH.

I speak on behalf of the very many GPs who are truly concerned and angered by this move. Personally and professionally, I feel that the very small number of these clinics will impact very little on most GPs even in the urban setting, but this is not the issue. Professionally as a specialist, I will personally not be impacted in the least by these 1M clinics, but because we are elected to represent all MMA members, we have to recognise their plight and the potential major issue behind such moves.

Personally I am not partial to any demonstration or public protests, but if this is the will of the majority of the GPs and the members then this will have to be the stand of MMA. Our personal beliefs must be subsumed within the greater good and will of the majority of our members.

I will of course seek a dialogue and ensure that we get truly represented to give our strongest views to the government, without fear or favour.

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Sarjeet and all, it's not all that's explicitly stated by DG.

Pls re-read this MOH FP's posting, which now confirms a few other MOH doctors who were all caught unawares until budget 2010.


"On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:13 PM, a senior government MOH Family physician wrote:


Agreed with Prof Sim.


It seem that MOH has NO option and has to obey the political need of the country.


MOH has made preparation for the 1Malaysia Clinic in a very short time..I was informed only RM30,000 allocated to initiate service per clinic. So the clinics are meant for very basic medical care. We were also told that MOH budget for next year was cut by about 5%.  Hope the government will provide more since this last year itself, we faced inadequate budget. What more this year where service expanded with another 50 clinics


Currently at government health clinics, we are  facing shortage of paramedics...now this will be aggravated further since we have to send some to work there. Not to forget we still send paramedics for the PLKN.....This will not help our existing clinics since I am sure many patients will ultimately be referred  to the clinics to be seen by doctors.


There are more than 800s health clinics in Malaysia but there are still clinics without resident doctors and being manned by MAs. Even in many clinics with doctors, many patients are being treated by MAs since not enough medical officers and some doctors has to cover certain days to clinics without doctors. Meaning MAs are able running the 1Malaysia clinics though patients actually prefer to see doctors.


Then what about issuing medical certificate?


The clinics will be opened as planned ; all states has been given instruction to make the necessary preparation...like Dr Ashok said it will be good to monitor the performances. This is a challenge not only to GPs but also to MOH. However I feel the surrounding community near the 1Malaysia clinic welcome the clinics."

Another source confirmed that some of our doctor colleague 'ministers' had proposed expanding similar clinics for urban poor some years ago, for political consideration, but never adopted.

There is another dimension where Dr Denison Jayasooria has been advocating very ardently about alleviating urban poverty, with some touches on marginalised health care concerns, but this again was never a mainstream policy, and why now, quite suddenly...

Also, Dr Hooi, it was precisely a slanderous doctor from Penang who wrote scurrilous ad hominem attacks on me for doing 'nothing' in MalaysiaToday, but which I have elected not to reply despite calls from many friends. If he or she had the guts to climb out of that anonymous pseudonym, then my lawyers will know what to do!

I think everyone has now mellowed to passive acceptance that what has happened is fiat accompli.

The question is what's next? Please give a lot of thought to this.

I am only responding to the majority's wishes to be more vocal in expressing our interests as I have been trying to do without fear or favour thus far, although personally I have more to lose than to gain. But because I have been elected to serve our members, I will do what the majority decides.

However, I do feel that our medical profession has been shortchanged once again. Future doctors' careers may never be the same if this task-shifting is pursued as a tool to keep a check on doctors' salaries or possible future intransigence/disagreements with the government.

Like I said earlier, right now, most of us are not going to be materially affected. As a private specialist, I have no stake in this at all. But what of our GPs and our future doctors?

I will post the WMA statement on Task-shifting so that perhaps more of us can understand the implications and the global dimension of such moves by many health authorities and governments.